franklin
07-10 05:02 PM
Reminder - there is a nor cal conference call tonight to discuss the plans
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desi3933
06-27 02:15 PM
These kind of agreements doesnt stand in any court .You can always say that you are forced to sign for your livelihood period.Esp. if he is a desi employer he even doesnt dare to go to court as that will cause more damage.
Do you know the cost of defending suit? You have to prove the statements too.
Search for law cases in PA/NJ and you will SHOCKED to see many desi employers who have sued their employees.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Do you know the cost of defending suit? You have to prove the statements too.
Search for law cases in PA/NJ and you will SHOCKED to see many desi employers who have sued their employees.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
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07-10 12:39 PM
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vinabath
04-23 04:32 PM
my opinions in bold
Both parties ( employee and employers) bend letter and spirit of law. Think fake resumes, references, experiences on employee side. Think no salary on bench, lack minimum professional decorum, professional ethics on employers side. But overall my sympathies are with employee and more so in this case.
-- How can an employer pay salary on bench when employee wants to be an independent contractor(80%) on w-2
In > 90% of cases I have seen, Desi employers dont operate on good faith. A good example is punitive damages. The employer does h1B, incurs about 5K cost and expects the employee to serve out 12 months. The exit clause is 25K. Its downright silly and precisely what causes employee anxiety. Instead if it is prorated for stay, it would be fair for every one involved.
-- 25k because its just not about H-1b costs. Its business. Business needs to make profits and be healthy. Business dont want H-1B employees who would like to stay for less than an year. It affects other H-1B employees and their immigration process. Businesses hate to ask H-1Bs from INS and cancel H-1s. It puts a blotch on the Business. Afterall INS give H-1B approval hoping that the employee works with the employer for atleast 3 years .
Hoarding I-140, labor certificatio etc and giving no visibility is another deal breaker.I just dont get it.
you are right but this is also forced by H-1B employees.
Some one commented its a small world, apologize if necessary blah blah. If, for a minute the employer in this case thinks in positive way, ( My former employee would be at this place, couuld be in a position where I can sell more, i could get referral for new employees) he wouldnt be doing something like this which downright irresponsible and can cause significant damage to his shareholders. Being a small world goes on both sides.
Thats pretty optimistic and long term thinking.
For a techie, clilent is king. I would never displease the ultimate beneficiary of my services. Even after my project is over, I keep in touch, do occasional free consulting all in hope of building my network. But for employers like these, who add no value, i have no sympathies.
Both parties ( employee and employers) bend letter and spirit of law. Think fake resumes, references, experiences on employee side. Think no salary on bench, lack minimum professional decorum, professional ethics on employers side. But overall my sympathies are with employee and more so in this case.
-- How can an employer pay salary on bench when employee wants to be an independent contractor(80%) on w-2
In > 90% of cases I have seen, Desi employers dont operate on good faith. A good example is punitive damages. The employer does h1B, incurs about 5K cost and expects the employee to serve out 12 months. The exit clause is 25K. Its downright silly and precisely what causes employee anxiety. Instead if it is prorated for stay, it would be fair for every one involved.
-- 25k because its just not about H-1b costs. Its business. Business needs to make profits and be healthy. Business dont want H-1B employees who would like to stay for less than an year. It affects other H-1B employees and their immigration process. Businesses hate to ask H-1Bs from INS and cancel H-1s. It puts a blotch on the Business. Afterall INS give H-1B approval hoping that the employee works with the employer for atleast 3 years .
Hoarding I-140, labor certificatio etc and giving no visibility is another deal breaker.I just dont get it.
you are right but this is also forced by H-1B employees.
Some one commented its a small world, apologize if necessary blah blah. If, for a minute the employer in this case thinks in positive way, ( My former employee would be at this place, couuld be in a position where I can sell more, i could get referral for new employees) he wouldnt be doing something like this which downright irresponsible and can cause significant damage to his shareholders. Being a small world goes on both sides.
Thats pretty optimistic and long term thinking.
For a techie, clilent is king. I would never displease the ultimate beneficiary of my services. Even after my project is over, I keep in touch, do occasional free consulting all in hope of building my network. But for employers like these, who add no value, i have no sympathies.
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PresidentO
02-26 01:12 PM
Thanks Akhil for the write up
You answered some of the stuff very nice.
To the guy who is MAD,
Be MAD that you and your friends chose to ignore IV during the biggest screw up of USCIS.
It sounded very condescending that they are ready to give 1000USD now, when they are probably feeling the pinch, and ignored any efforts before/during/after the fiasco.
I did not say this the first time but now I can say this. People who say I will give 1000$ to IV, 10000$ to IV or the big amounts think that they are playing carrots and sticks. So you want the core members to come out and lay out the strategy on which member of congress is sympathetic to the situation and might do some thing. Yeah! right. Let the tunnel rat guy go and tell every guild, numbers usa idiot that what IV is up to.
Money is one of the pieces of this effort. Grass roots efforts are another piece. As Akhil said, people who work at the grass roots efforts dont have the shareholder or value for my buck mentality. Also, my friend, in the current volatile environment, problems do not blaring horns out for you and me. I am still amazed how two reporters sensationally linked H1B and Banking industry to get a bill on the floor. It is those two reporters who called Grassley and ignited his draconian mind.
Watch out what kind of reports are going to run in Mar and Moira Herbst already reported a bill in works by Durbin and Grassley. D & G will attempt to remove the 6th year extensions no matter what, revoke some of the AC21 provisions and god knows what they are penning down now. Then all of us, those who are sleeping, those who are pretending to sleep can wake up for real.
It is a shame that our community will flock to Bollywood/Kollywood/Tollywood events and shell out 20-50 $ per seat but considers contributing to IV as some thing that needs to be seen through the magnifying lens 100 times.
You answered some of the stuff very nice.
To the guy who is MAD,
Be MAD that you and your friends chose to ignore IV during the biggest screw up of USCIS.
It sounded very condescending that they are ready to give 1000USD now, when they are probably feeling the pinch, and ignored any efforts before/during/after the fiasco.
I did not say this the first time but now I can say this. People who say I will give 1000$ to IV, 10000$ to IV or the big amounts think that they are playing carrots and sticks. So you want the core members to come out and lay out the strategy on which member of congress is sympathetic to the situation and might do some thing. Yeah! right. Let the tunnel rat guy go and tell every guild, numbers usa idiot that what IV is up to.
Money is one of the pieces of this effort. Grass roots efforts are another piece. As Akhil said, people who work at the grass roots efforts dont have the shareholder or value for my buck mentality. Also, my friend, in the current volatile environment, problems do not blaring horns out for you and me. I am still amazed how two reporters sensationally linked H1B and Banking industry to get a bill on the floor. It is those two reporters who called Grassley and ignited his draconian mind.
Watch out what kind of reports are going to run in Mar and Moira Herbst already reported a bill in works by Durbin and Grassley. D & G will attempt to remove the 6th year extensions no matter what, revoke some of the AC21 provisions and god knows what they are penning down now. Then all of us, those who are sleeping, those who are pretending to sleep can wake up for real.
It is a shame that our community will flock to Bollywood/Kollywood/Tollywood events and shell out 20-50 $ per seat but considers contributing to IV as some thing that needs to be seen through the magnifying lens 100 times.
yawl
05-23 08:55 AM
sent 2+10 emails. Thanks IV.
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singhsa3
11-21 10:06 AM
It is really sad to hear that. I am no expert by any means but assuming that you are still a young family (say in mid thirties), I would suggest that unless your family is financially secure and have other family members here in the USA to lean on, I will suggest to at least consider the option of going back, irrespective of what the outcome of you green card process may be.
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pcs
07-02 10:01 AM
They say, it will reach by noon tomorrow
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gcformeornot
01-29 05:54 PM
in trouble. I am not on H1 but I think the moment you get H1, in this case COS from H4 to H1 within few months you should have paying job. There will be problem at time of extension if no paystubs are present. Bench or not employer need to Pay H1b if he has hired one.
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simple1
05-01 09:38 AM
caliber,
I belive It is not 10-15 years.
actually, even after correctly following the law, in case of EB3, families may get it earlier.
VB date for 2A (family quota) is 08OCT04
VB date for EB3 is now un available.
In my case (EB2). The VB date is 15FEB04. Families VB date is 08OCT04(my spouse). Only 6months diff.
gurus, correct me if required.
I belive It is not 10-15 years.
actually, even after correctly following the law, in case of EB3, families may get it earlier.
VB date for 2A (family quota) is 08OCT04
VB date for EB3 is now un available.
In my case (EB2). The VB date is 15FEB04. Families VB date is 08OCT04(my spouse). Only 6months diff.
gurus, correct me if required.
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franklin
07-05 11:17 AM
Guys
this is pathetic.. wake up can you not spend 30$ from your pockets to make this thing happen? Why would you not want to do something that is so different and would be effective if all of us do it together.
cmon, arise,awake.
Sorry - I had no idea what this thread was about.
this is pathetic.. wake up can you not spend 30$ from your pockets to make this thing happen? Why would you not want to do something that is so different and would be effective if all of us do it together.
cmon, arise,awake.
Sorry - I had no idea what this thread was about.
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mnkaushik
09-25 11:29 AM
I applied on July 23rd to NSC and today my lawyer sent me an email with scanned copy of all the receipts and they are from CSC.
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raju123
07-03 07:38 AM
I like the idea. Why only secretory of Homeland security only. Cover White House and Speaker of House and Majority Senate leader.
We need systematic planning and coordination. The letter should have background picture of Gandhiji and footnote should contain famous quote of Gandhiji.
Anyway good idea to have attention of media and lawmakers.
We need systematic planning and coordination. The letter should have background picture of Gandhiji and footnote should contain famous quote of Gandhiji.
Anyway good idea to have attention of media and lawmakers.
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Ushakiran
05-08 05:59 PM
should we add the following content?
EB quota is only a small share compared to overall immigration quota. Per Country cap on family based immigration can still be remained to ensure diversity. However, we request to remove country cap on EB immigration. US employees are only looking for talents to keep competitiveness, no matter the talents is from India, China, or Luxembourg .
Below is what I sent. Maybe we can tweak this letter and send it to all senators and congressmen.
Subject: Discrimination of Indian Immigrants
Dear President Obama,
I wanted to bring to your attention the plight of hundreds of thousands of highly skilled Indian immigrants waiting endlessly for many years in order to obtain a permanent residency in the US. The process of getting a permanent residency is a long, winding, time consuming, financially and emotionally draining experience, with no end at sight. After 5 to 10 years of waiting in line, paying taxes, obeying law, many high skilled workers from India find that permanent residency is only a dangling carrot that they may never get it.
One of the biggest hurdles for high skilled immigrants from India is a country cap that limits applicants from any one country from having more than 7% of the available employment based green cards (140,000 visa numbers per year). This means applicants from countries like Andorra and Luxembourg get the same number of green cards as applicants from India and China. This causes a person from India and China to wait 5 to 10 years in order to get permanent residency while applicants from all other countries have zero wait time. We are here in USA because we wanted to be a part of USA, and not because we came from a certain country. All applicants should be treated equally and country cap only allows discrimination by national origin in the disguise of fairness to all, as US has a lot more high skilled workers from India or China than from Andorra or Luxembourg.
President Obama, we are here to pursue the American Dream and we find hurdles at every level during the immigration process. I request you to kindly remove the discriminatory country cap and provide us relief. This is a small step that can enormously help hundred of thousands of high skilled immigrants and we will be grateful to you for our lifetime.
Thank you President Obama and you are doing a wonderful job!
Sincerely,
Xxxxx xxxxx
EB quota is only a small share compared to overall immigration quota. Per Country cap on family based immigration can still be remained to ensure diversity. However, we request to remove country cap on EB immigration. US employees are only looking for talents to keep competitiveness, no matter the talents is from India, China, or Luxembourg .
Below is what I sent. Maybe we can tweak this letter and send it to all senators and congressmen.
Subject: Discrimination of Indian Immigrants
Dear President Obama,
I wanted to bring to your attention the plight of hundreds of thousands of highly skilled Indian immigrants waiting endlessly for many years in order to obtain a permanent residency in the US. The process of getting a permanent residency is a long, winding, time consuming, financially and emotionally draining experience, with no end at sight. After 5 to 10 years of waiting in line, paying taxes, obeying law, many high skilled workers from India find that permanent residency is only a dangling carrot that they may never get it.
One of the biggest hurdles for high skilled immigrants from India is a country cap that limits applicants from any one country from having more than 7% of the available employment based green cards (140,000 visa numbers per year). This means applicants from countries like Andorra and Luxembourg get the same number of green cards as applicants from India and China. This causes a person from India and China to wait 5 to 10 years in order to get permanent residency while applicants from all other countries have zero wait time. We are here in USA because we wanted to be a part of USA, and not because we came from a certain country. All applicants should be treated equally and country cap only allows discrimination by national origin in the disguise of fairness to all, as US has a lot more high skilled workers from India or China than from Andorra or Luxembourg.
President Obama, we are here to pursue the American Dream and we find hurdles at every level during the immigration process. I request you to kindly remove the discriminatory country cap and provide us relief. This is a small step that can enormously help hundred of thousands of high skilled immigrants and we will be grateful to you for our lifetime.
Thank you President Obama and you are doing a wonderful job!
Sincerely,
Xxxxx xxxxx
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fightnow
07-06 04:14 PM
Legal Immigrants Protest at San Jose on July 7
Location: City Hall
200 E Santa Clara St
San Jose, CA Yahoo Google Map
When: From Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:00 am to Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:30 pm
11:00 AM: Meet at San Jose City Hall (200 E Santa Clara St, meter and paid
parking lot)
11:30 AM: Go to the square in front of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Library (
150 E San Fernando St)
12:30 PM: Walk towards 635 N 1st St through S 4th St, E San Carlos St,
Markety Street and N 1St St.
1:15 PM: Arrive at 635 N 1st St and stay till 2:00 PM
2:30 PM: back to City Hall
Rule #1. Abide by law
Rule #2. Stay on sidewalks.
Rule #3. Follow traffic rules, show courtesy to other pedestrians. Do not
block building entrances
Rule #4. It might help if you dress professionally. Get your best attire out, suit or blazer and tie, and similar business attire if you're a lady.(Newly added by sertasheep)
What to bring: plenty of water, snack, sunblock and your SIGNS.
See google map for the route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=200+E+Santa+Clara+St,+San+Jose,+CA&daddr=S+4th+St+%4037.337490,+-121.887320+to%3A150+E+San+Fernando+St,+san+jose,+c a+to%3AS+4th+St+%4037.332980,+-121.883940+to%3AS+Market+St+%4037.331030,+-121.888360+to%3A37.333859,-121.890907+to%3AN+Market+St+%4037.338380,+-121.894240+to%3AW+St+James+St+%4037.339080,+-121.892780+to%3A635+N+1st+St,+San+Jose,+CA+to%3A20 0+E+Santa+Clara+St+San+Jose,+CA+95113&mrcr=4,5&mrsp=5&sz=15&mra=dme&sll=37.335736,-121.886315&sspn=0.015764,0.039911&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1
Disclaimer: Event leaders take no responsibility and will not be held
responsible for any injuries or accidents that may occur during the
posted events. It is your responsibility to abide by law. By joining
this event, you are taking responsibility for your own safety and well-being.
UPDATE FROM IV CORE :
Bay area residents:
Please begin the process of getting permit from the city to do this in the time-frame and route mentioned. But please move the date to either saturday July 14th or July 21st.
People wont be able to come tommorow so this must be done July 14th or July 21. Also, the rally should not be about just the July bulletin. It should be about backlogs and numerical caps as the root cause of this mess.
But do get city permit for around 100 people (that's what I expect will show up in Bay area based on past experience with Gutierrez rally).
Let's get some attention from CEOs of Oracle, Cisco, Sun and Google and also some attention from Rep. Zoe Lofgren and Nancy Pelosi. There is NO better place than Bay area to do this, especially San Jose.
Let's do this.
Location: City Hall
200 E Santa Clara St
San Jose, CA Yahoo Google Map
When: From Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:00 am to Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:30 pm
11:00 AM: Meet at San Jose City Hall (200 E Santa Clara St, meter and paid
parking lot)
11:30 AM: Go to the square in front of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Library (
150 E San Fernando St)
12:30 PM: Walk towards 635 N 1st St through S 4th St, E San Carlos St,
Markety Street and N 1St St.
1:15 PM: Arrive at 635 N 1st St and stay till 2:00 PM
2:30 PM: back to City Hall
Rule #1. Abide by law
Rule #2. Stay on sidewalks.
Rule #3. Follow traffic rules, show courtesy to other pedestrians. Do not
block building entrances
Rule #4. It might help if you dress professionally. Get your best attire out, suit or blazer and tie, and similar business attire if you're a lady.(Newly added by sertasheep)
What to bring: plenty of water, snack, sunblock and your SIGNS.
See google map for the route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=200+E+Santa+Clara+St,+San+Jose,+CA&daddr=S+4th+St+%4037.337490,+-121.887320+to%3A150+E+San+Fernando+St,+san+jose,+c a+to%3AS+4th+St+%4037.332980,+-121.883940+to%3AS+Market+St+%4037.331030,+-121.888360+to%3A37.333859,-121.890907+to%3AN+Market+St+%4037.338380,+-121.894240+to%3AW+St+James+St+%4037.339080,+-121.892780+to%3A635+N+1st+St,+San+Jose,+CA+to%3A20 0+E+Santa+Clara+St+San+Jose,+CA+95113&mrcr=4,5&mrsp=5&sz=15&mra=dme&sll=37.335736,-121.886315&sspn=0.015764,0.039911&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1
Disclaimer: Event leaders take no responsibility and will not be held
responsible for any injuries or accidents that may occur during the
posted events. It is your responsibility to abide by law. By joining
this event, you are taking responsibility for your own safety and well-being.
UPDATE FROM IV CORE :
Bay area residents:
Please begin the process of getting permit from the city to do this in the time-frame and route mentioned. But please move the date to either saturday July 14th or July 21st.
People wont be able to come tommorow so this must be done July 14th or July 21. Also, the rally should not be about just the July bulletin. It should be about backlogs and numerical caps as the root cause of this mess.
But do get city permit for around 100 people (that's what I expect will show up in Bay area based on past experience with Gutierrez rally).
Let's get some attention from CEOs of Oracle, Cisco, Sun and Google and also some attention from Rep. Zoe Lofgren and Nancy Pelosi. There is NO better place than Bay area to do this, especially San Jose.
Let's do this.
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sreeni78
11-18 08:54 AM
Sent it to MI senators and my congressman.
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cjain
11-01 05:20 PM
Gurus, experts, malik log...
Pls. illuminate us on this topic...
Pls. illuminate us on this topic...
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wait4ever
08-14 07:49 PM
My question is - has anobdy got their cards without getting the CPO e-mail - I have recd the approval notice on 11th in the mail - but I have yet to get the cards also I did not get the CPO e-mail:confused:
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07-07 11:01 AM
Though they didnot break any law in writing, they had the intent to not give any relief to people who are eligible to apply in july as per the old bulletin.
The intent itself is ulawful.
Alos in rushing to use all the visas, they might have given visas prematurely to applicants who had no clearence.
The only thing we could do guys , is to get a lot of media attention , make the whole world know about our problems....
If we dont get the GC yearly number increased for India , we should plan to go back,..
How long can i wait to file 485..
I am pretty much sure( i wish i am proven wrong) that the Lawsuits are not gonna help us.
They did nothing wrong legally , its a tradition that DOS doesnt change the visa bulletin in a month..ITS NOT A LAW.
The max we could get from a lawsuit is damages(financials) , and as USCIS is a fees funded organisatiom , its gonna come back to us
In one way we should be happy that the USCIS is cleaning its internal backlog,
The intent itself is ulawful.
Alos in rushing to use all the visas, they might have given visas prematurely to applicants who had no clearence.
The only thing we could do guys , is to get a lot of media attention , make the whole world know about our problems....
If we dont get the GC yearly number increased for India , we should plan to go back,..
How long can i wait to file 485..
I am pretty much sure( i wish i am proven wrong) that the Lawsuits are not gonna help us.
They did nothing wrong legally , its a tradition that DOS doesnt change the visa bulletin in a month..ITS NOT A LAW.
The max we could get from a lawsuit is damages(financials) , and as USCIS is a fees funded organisatiom , its gonna come back to us
In one way we should be happy that the USCIS is cleaning its internal backlog,
abq_gc
08-23 03:33 PM
Cool...I have an LUD of 5th August and after seeing your message, hope to get my receipts soon as well !
I had a LUD on 07/22 and I am still waiting....
I had a LUD on 07/22 and I am still waiting....
hebbar77
09-13 09:34 PM
I agree to the point that: we pay for unemployment , SS tax etc when we ourselves are not eligible for any of that if we continue on H1, in fact we are supposed to exit this country when we loose job!!!
what a joke...
also did u see this in history:
when europeans came here abt 500 years back, natives did not welcome them nor liked them. Now legal immigrants are coming , and you know how they are treated!!
so I guess system is behaving like normal. Its upto us to fight the system...
by demanding GC , we(for us and our generations) are asking for right to apply for citizenship, ultimately a right on the resource of this country(all resources including natural resource). So there has got to be fight/effort to get it. It will not come just doing what we do for living.
what a joke...
also did u see this in history:
when europeans came here abt 500 years back, natives did not welcome them nor liked them. Now legal immigrants are coming , and you know how they are treated!!
so I guess system is behaving like normal. Its upto us to fight the system...
by demanding GC , we(for us and our generations) are asking for right to apply for citizenship, ultimately a right on the resource of this country(all resources including natural resource). So there has got to be fight/effort to get it. It will not come just doing what we do for living.
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