Administrator2
11-18 09:46 AM
Blacktongue : There is no harm in trying. Leave no stone unturned. Chey Chey.:)
"There is no harm in trying. Leave no stone unturned."
This may sound optimistic and promising, but in essence sending random rhetoric using off message statements like "Erase Backlog Now" conflicts with our targeted messaging. To the observer on the Hill (i.e. in Congress) it all sounds more like a noise without a coherent message.
I'm sure you would agree that "no harm in trying" and "Leave no stone unturned" doesn't mean diluting our effort or sending incoherent message. That is why we need to have a single voice sending the same targeted message each time, otherwise we will just sound like awkward noise.
"There is no harm in trying. Leave no stone unturned."
This may sound optimistic and promising, but in essence sending random rhetoric using off message statements like "Erase Backlog Now" conflicts with our targeted messaging. To the observer on the Hill (i.e. in Congress) it all sounds more like a noise without a coherent message.
I'm sure you would agree that "no harm in trying" and "Leave no stone unturned" doesn't mean diluting our effort or sending incoherent message. That is why we need to have a single voice sending the same targeted message each time, otherwise we will just sound like awkward noise.
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bostonqa
06-11 01:32 PM
How do you know that the visa numbers will indeed become "U", come October? Any numbers/sources to back up the claim?
I know some senior members previously indicated in these forums that there is a difference between a "U"-Unavailable and a retrogressed date of 2003 for example.
I dont know if the visa numbers will become "U".
I just asked 'what IF' they become "U".
do we still get our EAD and AP?
I know some senior members previously indicated in these forums that there is a difference between a "U"-Unavailable and a retrogressed date of 2003 for example.
I dont know if the visa numbers will become "U".
I just asked 'what IF' they become "U".
do we still get our EAD and AP?
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PresidentO
02-25 11:50 PM
Akhil,
I could convince 3 of my colleagues who are READY RIGHT NOW to contribute $1000.00 each. I can do $500.00.
But they asked me just one question. What is the action plan that IV is collecting these monies from prospective immigrants who are already in pain due to this economy and all that. I did tell them about July 07, flower campaign, but they are not willing to listen. They said they did not contribute at that time due to some reasons, but they now want to contribute big way. They have a much bigger friend's circle than mine who are also doing good from top schools who may contribute too. They may also register in IV soon.
But their only question is "What is the action plan for FUTURE". Can you please help.
I am confused myself with the same question, no offense. Like me, they wouldnt wait and wait forever for things to happen. We Strongly believe in any action towards goals. Trust me, we need lots of money, but the way they responded made me feel uncomfortable.
Yeah! Its common sense dude! Lets keep the 50USD in pocket when one has job rather than contributing to a cause that might help keep the job or makes voice heard when a bad bill comes out.. Choice is yours and your friends. If you/your friends are expecting a GC because you paid 50$ towards this effort, I dont know what to tell. If you/your freinds are expecting to hold xyz accountable for every single penny of the donation, that is not the attitude that will bring US together.
Ask your friends to understand the word lobbying and advocacy efforts. How much work it takes to hire a firm and get strategic advise? How much a firm that advises strategically and positions the issue strategically charges per hr? If an IT consultant is charged at the rate of 100-200USD by a big consulting company, Imagine how much would a consultant such as these people on the hill charge? I dont know but I wont be surprised if its north of 500USD an hr.
With out IV, The only two things folks on the hill knew were illegal immigration and H1B visa. Now more than 75% offices know the EB issue inside out and have a position on it. This is an effort that needs to be continued until we get a solution.
"What is the action plan for FUTURE"?
Relief from Retrgoression. Continued advocacy efforts. is it that difficult to know? I dont know but it seemed obvious to me.
I could convince 3 of my colleagues who are READY RIGHT NOW to contribute $1000.00 each. I can do $500.00.
But they asked me just one question. What is the action plan that IV is collecting these monies from prospective immigrants who are already in pain due to this economy and all that. I did tell them about July 07, flower campaign, but they are not willing to listen. They said they did not contribute at that time due to some reasons, but they now want to contribute big way. They have a much bigger friend's circle than mine who are also doing good from top schools who may contribute too. They may also register in IV soon.
But their only question is "What is the action plan for FUTURE". Can you please help.
I am confused myself with the same question, no offense. Like me, they wouldnt wait and wait forever for things to happen. We Strongly believe in any action towards goals. Trust me, we need lots of money, but the way they responded made me feel uncomfortable.
Yeah! Its common sense dude! Lets keep the 50USD in pocket when one has job rather than contributing to a cause that might help keep the job or makes voice heard when a bad bill comes out.. Choice is yours and your friends. If you/your friends are expecting a GC because you paid 50$ towards this effort, I dont know what to tell. If you/your freinds are expecting to hold xyz accountable for every single penny of the donation, that is not the attitude that will bring US together.
Ask your friends to understand the word lobbying and advocacy efforts. How much work it takes to hire a firm and get strategic advise? How much a firm that advises strategically and positions the issue strategically charges per hr? If an IT consultant is charged at the rate of 100-200USD by a big consulting company, Imagine how much would a consultant such as these people on the hill charge? I dont know but I wont be surprised if its north of 500USD an hr.
With out IV, The only two things folks on the hill knew were illegal immigration and H1B visa. Now more than 75% offices know the EB issue inside out and have a position on it. This is an effort that needs to be continued until we get a solution.
"What is the action plan for FUTURE"?
Relief from Retrgoression. Continued advocacy efforts. is it that difficult to know? I dont know but it seemed obvious to me.
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gccovet
08-18 10:59 AM
Got much awaited "CRIS" email today morning (Email went into SPAM folder :-) ).
EB3-I PD: 5/04
Case : Paper based@TSC RD Last week of May.
No LUD
CPO: 8/18 (waited 82 -83 days )
Don't know the period yet. Whatever it may be, I will be happy to get the Cards (hope all the details on the EAD card are correct).
Good luck to all, hope and pray everyone gets their EAD renewed.
Leasson learned: File EAD renewal (send application just when 120 days are remaining, so that have enough breathing time to open SR or take infopass etc. incase the cards are not processed in time). Don't think much about loosing 2-3 months.
GCCovet
EB3-I PD: 5/04
Case : Paper based@TSC RD Last week of May.
No LUD
CPO: 8/18 (waited 82 -83 days )
Don't know the period yet. Whatever it may be, I will be happy to get the Cards (hope all the details on the EAD card are correct).
Good luck to all, hope and pray everyone gets their EAD renewed.
Leasson learned: File EAD renewal (send application just when 120 days are remaining, so that have enough breathing time to open SR or take infopass etc. incase the cards are not processed in time). Don't think much about loosing 2-3 months.
GCCovet
dtekkedil
07-03 03:42 PM
We should tip the local and national TV channel to cover these by standing in front of the that building and see the kabloom FTD trucks pulling up there all day long constantly as if there is supplying of flowers to a cemetary.
Would be great.. but it will work only if enough people send those flowers! I suggest emailing your friends.. anyone who would listen! Persuade them to send those flowers!
Would be great.. but it will work only if enough people send those flowers! I suggest emailing your friends.. anyone who would listen! Persuade them to send those flowers!
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techbuyer77
06-18 10:40 AM
When was your friend's Priority Date current? June 1st? Or, I assume, before that?
i dont know her pd, she sent the stuff on may 18th and she got the receip around the 6/6/7
i dont know her pd, she sent the stuff on may 18th and she got the receip around the 6/6/7
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07-05 01:09 PM
Gandhiri is not for this Country - all they listen to is Money......
Those who follow Gandhi are treated as if they were Hitlers allies...like MLK Jr. They are SHOT!!!
If you can weild a good $ bat, then they will listen to you..!!
Those who follow Gandhi are treated as if they were Hitlers allies...like MLK Jr. They are SHOT!!!
If you can weild a good $ bat, then they will listen to you..!!
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11-17 06:46 PM
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mmanurker
07-20 11:42 AM
Dear Members
For those of you joining us late, here is some info about this thread.
1. This is to do our least part to the core IV Team for their selfless sacrifice, for all of us getting the benefits of legal immigration. Note that , Aman Kapoor , the co-founder of IV has done his part by sacrificing $64,000/- from his own personal funds towards the administrative costs of IV. Yes you read it right , it is $64,000/- We come to know from his co-worker that he has sold his house towards running this show for us.
2. We have not yet figured out a way to reimburse these costs as IV does not yet have administrative costs part of the expenditure allocation, as we understand it. So instead of a wait and watch, we decided to go ahead with collecting the pledge from the members on the amount they are putting forth for reimbursing the amount. Once we come up with a strategy(members we look for your suggestions on how to get this done, please add your comments) we will instruct the members pledged to pay out.
So do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet.
Please help us spread the message about this thread in other threads by copy and pasting the following in other threads too.
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman and other core IV member's expenses towards the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Thanks
Anzer
Pl. count me in....I pledge $100 towards Aman's expense re-imbursement.
Pl. let me know how to send the amount coz your post clearly says
"do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet"
(so far contributed $100 to IV)
For those of you joining us late, here is some info about this thread.
1. This is to do our least part to the core IV Team for their selfless sacrifice, for all of us getting the benefits of legal immigration. Note that , Aman Kapoor , the co-founder of IV has done his part by sacrificing $64,000/- from his own personal funds towards the administrative costs of IV. Yes you read it right , it is $64,000/- We come to know from his co-worker that he has sold his house towards running this show for us.
2. We have not yet figured out a way to reimburse these costs as IV does not yet have administrative costs part of the expenditure allocation, as we understand it. So instead of a wait and watch, we decided to go ahead with collecting the pledge from the members on the amount they are putting forth for reimbursing the amount. Once we come up with a strategy(members we look for your suggestions on how to get this done, please add your comments) we will instruct the members pledged to pay out.
So do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet.
Please help us spread the message about this thread in other threads by copy and pasting the following in other threads too.
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman and other core IV member's expenses towards the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Thanks
Anzer
Pl. count me in....I pledge $100 towards Aman's expense re-imbursement.
Pl. let me know how to send the amount coz your post clearly says
"do not pay it directly to the IV core funds, yet"
(so far contributed $100 to IV)
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It is really worthy contribution that one could make towards a great cause.....
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GC_wait_forever
11-21 02:59 PM
Dude,
You are still thinking about all the job crap and call. Are you some kind of a retard? Holy shit. What more meets the eye man? He might not be around after sometime. Instead of this bullshit, his priority must be to get better and spend time with family and friends. We dont know how things will be after 6 months. What I find retarded is that this crap green card seems to be taking higher position than him getting better.
To the original poster: Please realize that there is nothing more beautiful than life. Every minute of it is of the essence. Family and loved ones are more important than anything in life. You will not take money, green card or anything after you die. Your wife will be more happy realizing that she spent some fantastic time with you. I wish and pray that you get better. Just junk this immigration shit, go back home, take a second opinion and get better. There is life beyond America and remember that "Jaan hai to jahan hai" (If there is life then you have the world with you). Translation may not be perfect
You are still thinking about all the job crap and call. Are you some kind of a retard? Holy shit. What more meets the eye man? He might not be around after sometime. Instead of this bullshit, his priority must be to get better and spend time with family and friends. We dont know how things will be after 6 months. What I find retarded is that this crap green card seems to be taking higher position than him getting better.
To the original poster: Please realize that there is nothing more beautiful than life. Every minute of it is of the essence. Family and loved ones are more important than anything in life. You will not take money, green card or anything after you die. Your wife will be more happy realizing that she spent some fantastic time with you. I wish and pray that you get better. Just junk this immigration shit, go back home, take a second opinion and get better. There is life beyond America and remember that "Jaan hai to jahan hai" (If there is life then you have the world with you). Translation may not be perfect
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GCBy3000
04-06 02:56 PM
Well said eager_immi. Getting GC and getting job and earning is not the only thing in life. I have seen many many couple who are gc holders and citizens, giving up their career to bring up the kids for the first few years. This segment includes US citizens ( US Origin) too. Most the of the americans here have their spouse at home to take care of their kids first few years. It is not worth anybody's time and money to have a kid and put them in daycare from day one and go out and earn and pay half of it to daycare and the remaining half you are left with is not even come close to the amout of time you spent away with the new born who needs your warmth and does not have words to express. So the time spent with your new born for the first few years is priceless compared to the dollar you dream to earn at the cost of having child.
Enough of above, even my wife is CPA and we are married for 5 years now. She came to US dreaming about working in professional CPA firm. But my ignorance about GC process then cost her her career. She was depressed initially. I am an easy go guy and convinced her not to worry much about job. We planned and now we have 3+ year girl and a 3 weeks+ boy. Her mind is all set towards taking care of our kids and I am free from those job hunting depressions. Once both of our kids reaches 5+, she may again start to think about career. May be by then, by Gods grace, I hope to have my GC. I bought a house this year and we all live happily knowing all the uncertanites of H1. We knew it is risk to buy a house. But ultimately what is going to happen. Is anyone going to behead you in case you default or loose job? What the heck, file bankruptcy and go back to home country. At least the days we live here, we live in peace and enjoy. If you have this mindset, you will think clearly and will take positive decisions. Otherwise, everyday is hell in US for immigrants with the current GC process.
Getting GC and earning is not everything. It is only very very small part of life. Forget about it and live today's life with what you have. Worry about things which you can control. All other things will follow you automatically. Having kids is in your hand and you have to have this sooner or later. Always, sooner the better and you can use this retrogression as an opportunity to execute those projects instead of worrying over it. GOOD LUCK.
Listen, everyone is frustrated but to take your lives for a GC is crazy. If you guys are so depressed please seek medical help. If you have kids they will be US citizens they can sponsor you 18 years later so why are you that frustrated. When your wife is on H4 that is the best time to have kids because she is at home and you don't have to pay daycare. It is the woman in H1B that my sympathies are with bc they cannot go part-time or get more that 6 week maternity leave. So please buckle up or seek help, I don’t think your logic makes sense.
Enough of above, even my wife is CPA and we are married for 5 years now. She came to US dreaming about working in professional CPA firm. But my ignorance about GC process then cost her her career. She was depressed initially. I am an easy go guy and convinced her not to worry much about job. We planned and now we have 3+ year girl and a 3 weeks+ boy. Her mind is all set towards taking care of our kids and I am free from those job hunting depressions. Once both of our kids reaches 5+, she may again start to think about career. May be by then, by Gods grace, I hope to have my GC. I bought a house this year and we all live happily knowing all the uncertanites of H1. We knew it is risk to buy a house. But ultimately what is going to happen. Is anyone going to behead you in case you default or loose job? What the heck, file bankruptcy and go back to home country. At least the days we live here, we live in peace and enjoy. If you have this mindset, you will think clearly and will take positive decisions. Otherwise, everyday is hell in US for immigrants with the current GC process.
Getting GC and earning is not everything. It is only very very small part of life. Forget about it and live today's life with what you have. Worry about things which you can control. All other things will follow you automatically. Having kids is in your hand and you have to have this sooner or later. Always, sooner the better and you can use this retrogression as an opportunity to execute those projects instead of worrying over it. GOOD LUCK.
Listen, everyone is frustrated but to take your lives for a GC is crazy. If you guys are so depressed please seek medical help. If you have kids they will be US citizens they can sponsor you 18 years later so why are you that frustrated. When your wife is on H4 that is the best time to have kids because she is at home and you don't have to pay daycare. It is the woman in H1B that my sympathies are with bc they cannot go part-time or get more that 6 week maternity leave. So please buckle up or seek help, I don’t think your logic makes sense.
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chanduv23
06-23 06:36 AM
Those who think, their employer is OK - be extra extra cautious. Never, never believe employers. Bottom line is, employers will not care for u, if they know u r gonna benefit out of this, they will do everything they can to avoid this. Most desi employers indulge in sweet talks. Talks will be extremely sweet. Just like how they talk to u before u join the company.
GC filing is a carrot that employers thrive on. They will do anything to aqvoid this situation.
Remember, your problems are not over after filing 485 also. The so called prospective employers who always told u, "I will hire you, if you have a GC or EAD" will now give some other excuse. Basically they want to put u in a position where u have less chances of bargain, thats the whole deal.
Lotsa people go by self employment after filing for EAD (Dunno how - maybe some IV members can explain this) and still do contracting and safely see themselves through their GC.
So basically, we are on our own here. For those dealing with desi employers - I can tell u one thing. U can handle the situation with sweet talk and some diplomacy - desi employers have their own fears. But those dealing with American employers - be extra careful - HR personnel etc... who have sympathy for layed off workers etvc... will try to screw u big time on ur back. If they decide to screw u - they will do it big time and none of ur diplomacy will work there - believe me, I gone through this.
Be smart - stay on top of things, don't waste time and get things done in all possible ways. Get employer letter in whatever way u can. (If you have a letterhead - u know what I am saying ....)
GC filing is a carrot that employers thrive on. They will do anything to aqvoid this situation.
Remember, your problems are not over after filing 485 also. The so called prospective employers who always told u, "I will hire you, if you have a GC or EAD" will now give some other excuse. Basically they want to put u in a position where u have less chances of bargain, thats the whole deal.
Lotsa people go by self employment after filing for EAD (Dunno how - maybe some IV members can explain this) and still do contracting and safely see themselves through their GC.
So basically, we are on our own here. For those dealing with desi employers - I can tell u one thing. U can handle the situation with sweet talk and some diplomacy - desi employers have their own fears. But those dealing with American employers - be extra careful - HR personnel etc... who have sympathy for layed off workers etvc... will try to screw u big time on ur back. If they decide to screw u - they will do it big time and none of ur diplomacy will work there - believe me, I gone through this.
Be smart - stay on top of things, don't waste time and get things done in all possible ways. Get employer letter in whatever way u can. (If you have a letterhead - u know what I am saying ....)
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 09:13 PM
One more dreamer.
What standards are you talking about? All the universities in the US are standard and all are non-standard at the same time. There are no legally accepted ways to define what is standard. Also, the GMAT or GRE or TOEFL are not necessarily indicators of admitting brilliant students. Several ABET accredited departments in engineering schools do not require GRE scores! And yet they are ABET accredited. So this argument makes little sense. (Somehow I think, we've discussed this before :))
As purgan pointed out, the market forces have made this a great country. Even if you have an MS or Ph.D., but if you have no job, you are not going to get a GC; but that has always been the case. I don't know that you can get a job by paying a desi consultant 20K. If that is happening, the law will take corrective action, as it invariably does in this country fortunately. So there is no reason to worry about that provision in the SKIL bill.
But I do agree that it may be easier to get something like doubling the number of GCs temporarily, rather than a blanket provision, passed. (That is like increasing the queue capacity during rush hour and bringing it back to normal levels when the traffic intensity reduces.) But if we increase the H1B quota and only double the number of GCs, we will have an intractable situation.
What standards are you talking about? All the universities in the US are standard and all are non-standard at the same time. There are no legally accepted ways to define what is standard. Also, the GMAT or GRE or TOEFL are not necessarily indicators of admitting brilliant students. Several ABET accredited departments in engineering schools do not require GRE scores! And yet they are ABET accredited. So this argument makes little sense. (Somehow I think, we've discussed this before :))
As purgan pointed out, the market forces have made this a great country. Even if you have an MS or Ph.D., but if you have no job, you are not going to get a GC; but that has always been the case. I don't know that you can get a job by paying a desi consultant 20K. If that is happening, the law will take corrective action, as it invariably does in this country fortunately. So there is no reason to worry about that provision in the SKIL bill.
But I do agree that it may be easier to get something like doubling the number of GCs temporarily, rather than a blanket provision, passed. (That is like increasing the queue capacity during rush hour and bringing it back to normal levels when the traffic intensity reduces.) But if we increase the H1B quota and only double the number of GCs, we will have an intractable situation.
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since1996
03-26 04:29 PM
I say i get it by 2011....if i dont....then i just suck it up and keep waiting...LOL
the worst case....I will finally ask my g/f (shes american) to marry me and apply thru her. LOL LOL
the worst case....I will finally ask my g/f (shes american) to marry me and apply thru her. LOL LOL
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